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NeoNotes — what conservatives see

See, that’s what I mean. No one has all the answers and certainly no group has all the answers.

Let me tell you what I think they see.

First, a nation where some people believe victimhood has become more important than merit. A place where people have been taught that certain groups must be forced to sacrifice so that the unworthy may prosper.

Let me talk about that word unworthy for a bit. In this case it means someone who expects that their desires be fulfilled with minimum effort on their part. It’s one thing to march with fuzzy pink hats. But who shows up to do the work? And no, marching with a hat is not the work. Work means getting your hands dirty. Work isn’t about raising awareness or pointing out injustice. Work is the every day effort to provide for yourself and those you care for. Work is not taking a weekend to show your solidarity.

Because for them, it’s not about skin color. It’s about merit. If it were about skin color, then people like Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell wouldn’t be celebrated. For them it’s about fixing the problem and getting the job done. It’s not about curing past injustices or preventing any possible future injustices (definition subject to change). A hand up instead of a hand out.

Thomas Sowell said “When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.” And he was right. Too many privileges today are passed off as rights. Temporary measures become permanent. Privileges are sold as rights, despite only applying to certain victim groups.

And when there is criticism of any of this, it’s called racism.

Second, a government that has lied to them repeatedly. And a bunch of politicos who keep promising that government will fix the problems.

And by the way, this crosses the “skin color” barrier. It’s just that we’ve been lectured that you can’t be a “real …” (black, Hispanic, minority) unless you oppose Republicans and conservatives because “the Man” wants to take it away. See the Sowell quote above.

Third, that Democrats exploit the victimhood.

I disagree with your figures about “the young.” I think the media have their own reasons to skew the news (90% negative stories about Trump).

I also think you are making a major mistake focusing on Trump.

I told you before that it is not Trump. People are losing faith in institutions because our institutions are failing to deliver what was promised. Trump is a symptom not the cause.
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NeoNotes — The process or the Republic?

Odd how all these terrible things also happened in the eight years prior to Trump's inauguration, yet it wasn't important enough to notice.



Regardless of your opinions about Trump (and I am not a Trump supporter), there is some pretty potent stuff built into the very structure of D.C. It's not about Trump, it's not even about the Presidency. It's about the Republic. There are a thousand little rituals that reinforce that power constantly. As long as Trump's election is perceived as legitimate, he falls under that protection and is pretty much immune to anything magickal that gets tossed his way.

Go after his "legitimacy" without just cause and you're attacking the Republic, not his Presidency.

And that's a whole lot more than I really wanted to say about the subject.



See, that's the thing. Trump is objectionable, but he was legitimately elected. Inventing all these stories about manipulating the election while overlooking the shenanigans of the Democrat nominee attacks the process of the election. On a symbolic level, it makes Trump's points about an unaccountable elite class for him.

This is not an accident and it certainly isn't because of Trump's political genius.

If the election had gone the other way, no one but the die hards would be paying any attention to the process. Focus on the "broken" process and you make Trump stronger. Even without the subtle magickal workings, there's no payoff. Attacking the process just makes the next office holder weaker. Is that what you want for a candidate from your party?

Absolutely Trump should be responsible for what he says and does. But hands off the process and the Republic.



Personally I think that real campaign finance reform means that you have to be a registered voter in the area affected by the election BEFORE you are allowed to donate to a candidate or cause. Of course that would destroy the political parties…

Still, Citizens United was another attack on the process focused on shutting up conservatives while giving progressives a permanent leg up.

So the question is do you want to manipulate the process? Or do you want an open field where your ideas stand or fail on their own merits?



Pardon, but you're assuming that one side is "better" than the other. You can't consider Citizens United without including McCain-Feingold. And that leads to the Soros-funded (alright, partially funded) astroturf groups that backed campaign finance reform. And so on and so on and so on. This is not something that happened recently. The "super delegate" changes I mentioned happened in the 1970s.

Take a step back. If anyone is trying to control the process, it's about the politics and not the ideas.



If you want to get into who is more corrupt, I'd point out that the sitting President at the time conspired with the presumptive Democrat candidate to lock out any challengers well before the primary process. Not to mention help picking the opposition candidate that would be easiest to defeat. None of this is a secret, all of it is a matter of public record, and all of it attacks the process.

Frankly, the Democrat leadership didn't think people could be trusted to make the "right" choice and they worked to cut the people out of the process. Both major parties do this, but the Democrats have been worse since the introduction of "super-delegates." And if you don't believe me, look at the "reforms" the DNC just introduced.

I'm so very tired of progressive "elites" and reporters focusing on the "dirty tricks" of Republicans all while excusing the excesses of their own side. Because of course, that is "justified" because Their Hearts are Pure and Their Cause is Just. They are still attacking the process.



You're right, they didn't. They didn't want "mob rule." Which is one reason why Senators weren't originally popularly elected.

They did have a point though. Individual rights can't be protected by popular rule. There will always be a push to take away rights and powers from those people who aren't in the majority.

Pure democracy and pure popular choice is a mistake. It took me a long time to accept that (and even longer to accept the electoral college). But let's face it, rights aren't popular all the time or even most of the time. If we make free speech and the right to bear arms and protection from search and seizure subject to popular vote, does it really protect our rights?



I'm obligated to mention that part of my acceptance of the electoral college is the fact that the Democrat nominee did not become President. Given her actions since the election, I'm even more convinced that she was a terrible choice.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump was a terrible choice too.

Given my druthers, I would have been all for the ancient Roman custom of exile or disgrace for both of them.



Symbolically, the American system is supposed to be about ideas to make things better. All that magick in D.C. that I mentioned is designed to support that.

But focusing on the process, the rules lawyering, the nit-picking undermines the Republic for a very short-term gain. Just as a brief example, if you want to take out the current President, is your time better spent rehashing the previous election or working against his re-election? Which one is about changing the future instead of changing rewriting the past?

More to the point, assume for that Trump gets removed from office for whatever reason. Does that make the Republic stronger? Doesn't that mean that the next President could be removed for some "silly" reason?
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NeoNotes — Compulsion by law

Just for the moment, forget about who oppressed who.

No one would expect a kosher butcher to provide pork for a BBQ.

Why should some religions and beliefs be protected while others are not?

Why do we not have equality before the law?

This is not about past wrongs being redressed. It isn't even about equal rights. It's about controlling someone else's thoughts and actions. It's about politics. It's about granting privilege while denying rights.

Under what circumstances does the state or the people have the moral authority to compel someone to act against their beliefs?



OK, let's go with that for the moment.

What gives the state the power to decide for an individual who he must do business with under penalty of law?

How is that moral?

There are companies we know can't be trusted to do the right thing. There are people each of us knows who will not do the moral thing. Should we be required by law to do business with them? To associate with them?

I promise you, that isn't freedom. In fact, a gentleman named Eric July tweeted "You have the right to refuse service to anybody, for any reason. To suggest otherwise is an advocation of slavery."
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It doesn't exactly sit right with me either, but that doesn't change the assumption. If government has the power to prohibit this thought, then government has the power to prohibit any thought. That should worry any minority. As yes it absolutely has to be all or nothing. It's not freedom unless the Other has it too.

It's also not just the current regime, but that is at least 17 other discussions that I am not going to get into here.

I'm enough of a romantic to believe the US can be a beacon of liberty. Americans try to make it better, that's what we do. It's been my experience that there is more racism in the metro areas, but I could be wrong.

I don't care what the Christian bakers and florists and photographers want. I want them playing by the same rules with no "legal" advantages.


I agree with one proviso.

People have the right to discriminate. It may not be moral according to society, but people have that right. It is just as much their right as freedom of speech and freedom of religion. The law is wrong when it prohibits discrimination.

At the same time, people are responsible for their actions and their words. That means they have to face criticism and shunning and shamming (without force). That means they have to face the loss of business and the loss of income.

But we can't afford to let government be the moral arbiter. We can not give the force of law to moral proclamations. We can't trust politicos to do the right thing consistently and without oversight.

I've talked before about mala in se and mala prohibita laws. Mala in se means bad in and of itself, usually because it is measurable harm. Laws against murder, theft, and vandalism fall into this category. The key idea is measurable harm. Mala prohibita laws are against things that government has prohibited. Vice laws fall under this, as do laws against religion, recreational intoxicants, and forbidden words. The libertarian in me will tell you that mala in se laws have a good reason and mala prohibita laws don't. Anti-discrimination and public accommodation laws are mala prohibita.

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Of course they did.

BUT (and this is really, really important)

These things were a part of the law.

The government thumb is still on the scale, just on a different tray. If it was wrong then, it is wrong now. It's still mala prohibita.

You can't trust government to do the right thing. I could go into the whole bit of which behaviors we choose to incentivize, but it comes down to one thing. When government gives preferential treatment to any group, it makes things worse.

Uniform rule of law. All or nothing, in your own words.

And yes, that is Social Darwinism, except for one tiny little thing. Americans don't leave it at that. These days hardly anyone remembers, but long before Official Government Solutions®, Americans founded private charities left and right. Orphanages, worker's aid societies, libraries, widows and children's charities, the list goes on and on. Americans want to help. Show us a crisis and we'll bend over backwards on tiptoe. The only thing that stops us is when government is "responsible. Somebody Else's Problem.



Pardon, but people do have the right to refuse service, we've just made a law that said they don't.

If the customer was being a racist jerk, I'm pretty sure you'd agree with me.

So what the law has done has set up a situation where the privileges of some trump the rights of others, all because the law assumes that people can't be trusted to make up their own mind and do the right thing. Your government and your fellow citizens don't think you can be trusted.

How is that moral?



I'm sorry, but I do not trust in the wisdom of government.

If it doesn't bring measurable harm, I don't think it should be prohibited. Just because something is legal doesn't mean it is morally right. At one point, the Federal government had the power to prohibit the making and distribution of alcohol. That led to the birth of organized crime, something we're still struggling with today.

I am not saying that discrimination because of gender, skin color, creed, or sexuality is right. I AM saying that government seeking to control discrimination is more wrong than the discrimination itself.



I disagree.

The free market means voluntary exchanges between mutually consenting adults. I may be selling widgets but the customer doesn't have to buy from me. Likewise, I don't have to sell to them if I don't like the color of their socks. Or anything else.

We've told ourselves that the law is about freedom and preventing injustice. But it's really a bad law that takes away freedom and encourages injustice.

As I pointed out the other day, discrimination is not always bad. And a law that prevents discrimination isn't always good, even if we are told that it is. It's not moral to require business owners and employees to sacrifice their freedom.
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NeoNotes - legacy of privilege

America is not the same nation that we were in 1962. We've changed, mostly for the better.

At the same time, the privilege of being a protected class is regularly exploited to excuse behavior and escape responsibility. It could be public housing projects which historically quickly degenerate into crime ridden hovels because no one may be evicted. It could be a crew of non-binary queers physically attacking a 24 year old lesbian feminist in St. Louis. It could be a Portland bakery being called racist because a "black" woman showed up after closing and they wouldn't take her order.

Even in the Meredith case you cite, it was not a matter of universal access. It was a matter of state law and government officials. This is absolutely vital to understand. Widespread racism cannot exist without government sanction. And as was well understood before the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the solution was not extra protection but equal protection.

Frankly I resent the assumptions behind special protections and I am not the only one. I am not misogynistic because I didn't vote for HRC. I am not racist because I question many of the actions and associations of Black Lives Matter. I am not heartless because I think that private charity can do greater things than "government help" ever could. And I do not think that accusations of rape and sexual misconduct are undeniable proof that something terrible must have happened. Yet questioning these assumptions, questioning the behavior of those exploiting the system is enough for some to condemn me unheard no matter what the facts show.

This is the unspoken legacy of special protection. More than that, it is the expectation of most of those exploiting the system. They won't be held accountable because of past wrongs dating to well before they were born. Their current actions don't matter because of you know, oppression, The Man, and injustice and stuff.

How can we have a just society when some people must ALWAYS legally defer to the oh-so-carefully defined victim groups? How is the definition of those victim groups any less a moral wrong than oppression?

Parity. Equal rights yes. Special privilege, never.
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NeoNote — “Not all …”

If you wish to ban me, it is your site and your choice.

I'm also the one who says "not all men" when I am told in uncertain terms that America is a rape society. And I am the one who says "not all Christians" when I am told that "religious freedom" is a code word for dominionism. And I am the guy who politely and upfront told you and your readers I am a trouble maker, even if it is in the cause of truth and liberty.

Mr. McCain, you and I have had some epic disagreements. We've also had some epic agreements. If you checked, you would see that I seldom disagree with you about the individuals you single out. I just disagree with attacking a label and a class of people.

So, I hope I can stay around. I will not stop saying "not all …" when I think it applies. And now, I have at least one more comment to answer before I am banished.



Maybe it's because my experience with feminism didn't start with loud People Who Want To Be Noticed and write books.

Maybe it's because when I had my first direct experience of the Divine, She was just a mite put out that it had taken me so long to notice. I still look for the Divine in every woman I meet. I don't always find it but I always look.

Maybe it's because I knew my first strong woman from before I was born. When her contemporaries were out protesting, she was busy making her part of the World just a little better. All while not claiming the feminist label or accepting anything less than the respect she had earned.

Maybe it's because I learned early on that while words matter, actions matter more and intentions don't.

And maybe I am just too damn stubborn.
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Tit for tat

The only reason to follow the rules is if the other does too. If they don't follow the rules, you aren't bound to the rules.

Tit for tat.

You play by civilized rules until the individual doesn't. Then you crush them.

Not the group they belong to, the individual. You refuse to treat the label as the enemy. That prevents them from retreating into the safety of the group identity, and it delegitimizes the moral claims of that group. It also demonstrates that rules work only if everyone follows them. And when someone doesn't follow the rules, then they don't have the protection of the rules.

I might have had some small experience fighting this type of battle.

ETA: Oh, it also makes someone who believes in collective identity for the greater good feel very exposed when they can't retreat. Very exposed.
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NeoNote - control

So some religions should get protection and others should not? Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that if we start making those distinctions we've just sacrificed religious freedom.


There are times I want to discriminate.

There are people I do not want to have anything to do with. Yes, sometimes those people are Christian fundamentalists. But sometimes those people call for imprisoning climate deniers. Sometimes those people call for the redistribution of wealth. Sometimes those people call for the suppression of ideas they are "triggered" by. Sometimes those people want others removed from history because of things the others have been accused of.

So tell me, why should any of those people get their way?

We draw the line for a reason. No, it's not perfect and not everyone will be happy. But it comes down to parity. If I don't think someone has legitimate power to tell me how to think, what to say, or how to act, then I have no legitimate power to tell them how to think, what to say, or how to act. Which means that public accommodation and anti-discrimination laws are so much bunk.

Otherwise we're just raising one victimhood over another. Last week it was women, this week it is transgenders we're "protecting." Can't have equal rights because Black Lives Matter. If your faith offends, you aren't allowed. At that point, at this point, the only "solution" is to control the law so that you can control what is "allowed." Never mind that just sets up a future where you will lose control. You must be free, but the Other is not allowed.


Everyone should have freedom to discriminate.

The moment that the law declares this group of people off limits is the moment when you invite the law to be abused.

Look at the bill that sparked the original article. It's a "fix" of another law, which was a fix of a previous law, and so on.

The solution to government is always more government. And the definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results.

If Christians are wrong to enshrine their beliefs in the law, then anyone else is wrong trying to constrain them with the law.

The only practical solution is making sure the law gives no advantage. "Protecting" one group over others is just going to perpetuate the injustice.



As far as the rest, I don't blame labels. There's no vice or virtue in the label. "Christian" includes Roy Moore and MLK. It's not every Christian and we should stop declaring that Christianity is a threat to our chosen way of life. Like it or not, American religious pluralism made American paganism possible.

As far as scapegoats go, well, you (among others) are blaming Christians because they are Christians and not because of what the individual has done.

My point all along this thread is that the law should not benefit or harm any religion. There are some very vocal Christians who want the law to shield Christianity. There are some very vocal people who want the law to contain Christianity. Both groups are wrong.



Actually yes.

Starting with a big one. I'll repeat it for you.

If Christians are wrong to enshrine their beliefs in the law, then anyone else is wrong trying to constrain them with the law.

Freedom of religion is exactly that. Neither help nor hinder. You can't fix bad law by making more law. You can only repeal it. Politics is about control. Freedom is about choice.


Ah, but that isn't what people like Bill Nye, Lawrence Torcello, Mark Hertsgaard, and Brad Johnson said. They all said that the mere act of climate change denial should be a crime.

Behold the new heresy. You are not allowed to dissent.

And yes, that is every bit as authoritarian as anything any Christian fanatic demanded.
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NeoNotes — effectiveness of public schools

We're so conditioned to accept public schools as a Good Thing™ that we resist looking at options.

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NeoNotes — Manifest your faith

It's not enough that I be a good person, I must supplicate myself before the altar of your dogma and beg forgiveness.

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NeoNotes — Religion in public schools

Mandatory school attendance is backed by the force of law. Much of it has degenerated into who gets to control the conditioning.

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NeoNotes — More on Jordan Peterson

Honestly there are many libertarians and a fair number of conservatives who just don't get why Jordan Peterson is such a big deal. It's like "yeah, we knew that, it's obvious."

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NeoNotes — reserve currency

When people are told that they will be taken care of because it is their right, they stop paying attention to the numbers

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NeoNotes — Women's studies

You have to look outside your preconceptions and expectations for the things you can't explain.

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NeoNotes — What has Trump done that is so bad?

We've reached the point where we're told that Trump is E-V-I-L, but they can't say why. And meanwhile with overwhelming bad news coverage, he still has an approval rating of more than 50%.

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NeoNotes — Trump & North Korea

This isn't business as usual. It never is with Trump. The old diplomatic games won't work. He doesn't care about the shape of the table. Trump cares about getting things done.

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NeoNotes — Not a Trump supporter

I'm telling you this on the remote chance you'll pay attention. I think Trump does need criticism. But all this "Trump is a buffoon" junk just waters down legitimate concerns. The more you do it, the stronger he'll be.

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NeoNotes — John McCain

John McCain is a dishonorable scumbag who is in it only for political advantage. He's cashed in on that POW experience so many times that it ought to have disintegrated by now.

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NeoNotes — California secession and the U.S. Constitution

As for secession, no, it's not treason.

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NeoNotes – Government should not be trusted

When government is "responsible" for something, regular people stop paying attention.

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NeoNotes — Economics and Trump

It's not about how much money government has, it's about how much money government takes from people.

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NeoNotes — What are the freedoms you feel are restricted?

There are others, but these are the biggies.

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NeoNotes — Government is not your friend

Pardon, but you're making the same mistake they did. You think that if the right person was in charge, everything would be okay.

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NeoNotes — Trump racist or Democrat legacy?

We'll start with basics. The game is not what you think it is.

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NeoNote — Somebody had to pull the trigger

I am not going to go into gun rights here.

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NeoNotes — SPLC

No one person and no one group has all the answers. No one group should be vested with THE moral authority to decide who is and is not a hate group.

The SPLC needs competition.

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NeoNotes — Post WWII

The American extended childhood is a post WWII phenomena. That's also what gave us the Baby Boomers, the less said about the better.

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NeoNotes — Let people make their own choices

Just pointing out again that if you don't like government power, maybe the real answer is taking the power away from government.

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NeoNotes — Trump's facts & examining the 2016 election

I remind you that no American political fact for the last two years has been easily ascertained. Or static.

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NeoNotes — compel an individual

Is it moral for the state to compel a product or service?

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NeoNotes — Conservatives and big government

The real problem is government.

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Internet debates

Sometimes, you're wrong.

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NeoNotes - Real religion

Christians are much nicer when they aren't the only game around.

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NeoNote — Achievement

The FedGovs have deliberately kept "the Rez" Amerindians out of the American Dream.

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NeoNotes — blame game

The problem isn't Republicans. The problem isn't Democrats. The problem is an ever-expanding government and a self-appointed "elite class" that doesn't feel it's responsible to anyone, but especially not the voters.

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NeoNotes — Bad purposes

It's my old friend, the parity test.

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NeoNotes — net neutrality

As it exists right now, local, state, and Federal governments allow and protect area specific telecommunications monopolies.

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NeoNotes - Hearsay

The accusation becomes more important than the crime.

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NeoNotes —Somebody finally said the C word

And that means I can say not all Christians.

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NeoNotes — Roy Moore and the Decalogue monument - updated

You don't demand that others submit to your religion. If I can object when the Islamists do it, if I can object when the climate change crowd does it, I can damn well object when a theocratic Republican passes it off as religious freedom and tells tales of his "oppression" because of his faith.

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NeoNotes — Infrastructure

Let's talk about infrastructure. Specifically, let's talk about Puerto Rico's infrastructure that was mismanaged and mostly ignored for decades before Trump took office. We could also mention Chicago, Baltimore, Washington D.C., and a number of other cities. What makes these places unique is that they have massive overspending, crumbling infrastructure, and Democrat leadership for decades.
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NeoNotes — Lower the cost of medical care

Government has shielded the medical industry and the medical insurance markets from the very things that would make medicine better.

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NeoNotes — Tax the rich

It's not cutting taxes for the rich, it's cutting taxes.

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NeoNotes — Witch hunts without due process

Sometimes we pagans take our sex way too seriously.

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NeoNotes - We need our ideas challenged

We don't need violence in the streets.

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NeoNotes — Racism in response to oppression

I see one group excuse their violence and their racism because of their narrative. This one group gets a pass but others do not. That's certainly privilege and it hurts their case.

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NeoNotes — Consider historical context to violence

What is to stop someone else from deciding that it's a good cause to thump you over the head? Once the excuses start, what's to protect you from the politics of the day?

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NeoNotes — Religion in public schools

I don't think religion belongs in the public schools. Public schools are compulsory, students can't walk away if they do not agree.

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NeoNotes — the Johnson amendment

As I said, the tax exempt status is a "devil's trade" intended in large part to silence churches.

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NeoNotes — Civil Rights acts - updated

If the Civil Rights Act of 1866 had worked, there would have been a need for another in 1871, in 1875, in 1957, in 1964, a Voting Rights Act of 1965, the Fair Housing Act of 1968, the Civil Rights Restoration Act of 1987, and the Civil Rights Act of 1991.

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NeoNotes — ban it

But you can't ban it because you dislike it. You can't outlaw it because if offends you. You can't lock it away and hope no one finds the key.

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NeoNotes — enabling racism

My mom's family is Louisiana farming stock. My natural father was not around long enough for me to know his family. I was born in Ganado, one of the few bilagáana born on the Navajo reservation. I've lived my entire life in the four state region, and I've lived with casual racism from the very first.

Without exception, the worst racism I've seen has been enabled by government. It could be keeping inner city mothers pregnant and unmarried. It could be hiring "tokens" when they weren't qualified. It could be stealing mineral rights while keeping tribal governments from hiring capable attorneys. But mostly it's keeping certain groups of people dependent on government daily. Always, they're told how they are victims. Always, they are told that only government can give them a fair shake. Always, they are told that Nasty People want to keep them down. And as long as they stay dependent, things never get better for them.

That's the tyranny that is rooted in progressivism and other forms of statism.

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NeoNotes — public accommodation law is wrong - updated

You can't grant equal rights to all citizens and have "protected groups." Beware the exceptions.

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NeoNotes — Marriage revisted

That is when marriage ceased to be religion and control shifted to the state.

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NeoNotes — Religion enshrined in law

Why should any religion be enshrined in law? Raised above all others as THE Moral Standard?

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NeoNotes — internet tactics

I pointed out before that dismissing arguments unheard and without even a cursory search to see if there is any validity just makes you look foolish and uninformed.

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NeoNotes — scapegoating "whites"

And yet scapegoating is alive and well.

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NeoNotes — government requires

If you didn't choose your morality and if you do not commit to your morality, is it really yours?

Or did it just get sacrificed for the greater good?
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NeoNotes — Costs of the drug war

We could do more for addiction and to stop violence and corruption by stopping the war on drugs.

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NeoNotes — Health care funding

Which raises the question why should care be publicly funded?

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NeoNotes — Who gets to call the shots

For length reasons, this entry appears on it's own page.

“Freedom is what matters.”

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NeoNotes — You're the product

Heinlein was right. "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch."

There's an internet adage that has popped up in recent years. "If it's free, you're not the customer, you're the product."

And finally there's the old reliable. "Follow the money."
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NeoNotes — Deserved to be heroes

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“We let generations be victims when they deserved to be heroes.”

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NeoNotes — Subjective morality

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“The law should be limited to punishing direct, measurable harm.”

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NeoNotes — Conversation - updated

“Climate is changing Because it's HUMANITY'S FAULT and WE'RE SCREWING UP THE PLANET!!!!!"

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NeoNotes — Green doesn't work

Solar and wind power are not practical. The sun doesn't always shine and the wind doesn't always blow.

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NeoNotes — “Adding CO2 to the atmosphere is bad” - updated

We know that most climate models use a “carbon cascade effect" that has never been measublurb or even observed.

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NeoNotes — Best intentions - updated

The problem is that the best intentions can lead to the worst results.

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NeoNotes — Prostitution

Do you really want politicos deciding what is moral harm?

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NeoNotes — Fertility religion

I can't think of a better place to do that than pressed up against each other in the afterglow.

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NeoNotes — The New Deal and the free market

All evidence shows that the New Deal prolonged what should have been a short term correction. Not to mention that government actions created the crash to begin with. Things like manipulating the price of gold, restricting the amount of currency, and messing with import/export taxes.

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NeoNotes — The screws

Almost nobody bothers to ask if the screws should exist in the first place.

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NeoNotes — Which god?

I will give you the same argument that led me to question the “faith of my fathers" and started my own search.

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NeoNotes — Make Your Choice

Are people better if they are more free or more controlled?

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NeoNotes — Free markets mean liberty

With government interference, one side exploits the others.

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NeoNotes — Pardon…

It would not honor my faith, and it dishonors the Divine as I perceive it. It would require me to break oaths & promises that are at least as important to me as yours are to you.

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NeoNotes — Harder and harder

Which means under the 10th Amendment, Obamacare is illegal.

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NeoNotes — Liberty should be the goal

We need solutions that don't exile people politically.

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NeoNotes — Off Limits

Behind locked doors and privacy fences, I am "free to do what I want." But is that freedom?

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NeoNotes — American Christmas

Christians are nicer people when they aren't the only game in town

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NeoNotes — An obvious solution

Plant more trees.

That's my advice, and I'm a tree hugging pagan.

I'm also a libertarian who supports the free market and personal choice. And I support ecology over environmentalism. Ecology is about understanding the connections and the trade offs. Environmentalism is about politics and controlling the behavior of others.

Seriously, if one end of the carbon cycle is a problem, we should adapt.

Plant more trees.

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When I thought Trump might win

By the end of September I was seriously impressed.

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NeoNotes — Government doesn't compete

There's no incentive to make it better

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NeoNotes — Laci Green

Because I lost a wager, I spent some time looking at Laci Green videos a while back. The stuff on sex is pretty good, the stuff on relationships is so-so, and the SJW stuff is just destructive. Although in her defense, I don't think she has thought through the implications.

Anyway, the chances of someone under 25 knowing very much about relationships are pretty slim. Particularly when their solution is for at least half of humanity to submit to their wisdom and change their ways.

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NeoNotes — Analysis

The last couple of days I've been analyzing both parties and their leadership.

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NeoNotes — People. Are. Pissed. Off.

People had their trust stolen and now they are almost ready to smash.

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NeoNotes — Shame game

I played this game many times until I tiblurb of it

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NeoNotes — Sexuality & society

I suspect that sexual orientation is not as hard wiblurb as some believe, but that is still individual choice.

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NeoNotes — College & university

Once upon a time, going to college or a university was about learning new ideas AND working out for yourself what ideas were practical and which ideas you could use to make your life better in society.

Real revolutions are rare and don't usually work.

Real change comes because someone worked out a better way and didn't have to force everyone else to accept it.

Thus endeth the sermon.

I need some biscuits and honey.

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NeoNotes — Drug War

Most of the problems caused by illegal drugs come from the drugs being illegal in the first place.

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2016 Election

I don't like either candidate. I don't trust either candidate. And I definitely don't trust the two major parties.

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NeoNotes — Control

I believe in people and not government.

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NeoNotes — Homosexuality wasn't illegal

Despite your personal beliefs, homosexuality is not the issue.

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NeoNotes — The real "for their own good"

I'm libertarian. If I had my way, the government would be much smaller and not pushing either a progressive agenda or a conservative one. I'm convinced that a big reason WHY this is happening now is because conservatives built the Big Institutions to keep things working Their Way™ and progressives took them over for the exact same reason.

I don't believe the answer is in who gets to call the shots.

I think the solution is stopping people from meddling with other people's lives so that those other people HAVE to take responsibility for their own choices.

Because that's the real 'for their own good.'

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NeoNotes - I'm not the smartest guy in the room

Since I just spent forty-five minutes writing it as a post, you’re damn right I’m going to put it here.

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Kafkatrap

I was adding commentary to some of my lexicon entries

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NeoNotes — Emotional connections

Sex without the emotional connection is masturbation

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NeoNotes — Vice

Vice laws tell people that we don't think they can be adults

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NeoNotes — Competition and progress

Competition keeps us honest. Progress never comes from satisfaction.

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NeoNotes — Reciprocity

We can build a moral system based on the Ethic of Reciprocity

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NeoNotes — Environmentalism loses it's wind

The climate change movement is destroying the environmental movement

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NeoNotes — Earth Day

Originally published at Technopagan Yearnings

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NeoNotes — Undermine your own

Perhaps what frustrates you most is that you can't denounce my faith without undermining your own. At the end of the day, we don't have anything but our faith. Mine is just as valid as yours by every "objective" measure you trot out.

Live and let live. Why is that so hard for you to accept?

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NeoNotes — Political committment

I make it a rule to doubt the political commitment of anyone more than three years younger than the voting age.

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NeoNotes — Politics is never about reform

Politics is about control

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NeoNotes — Political fringe and crazy ideas

The political fringe and their crazy, insane ideas

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NeoNotes — Immigration

That alone isn't enough

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NeoNotes — Smear

Why should they feel shame?

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NeoNotes — Taking over the world

The only point in taking over the world is to make sure people make their own choices

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NeoNotes — About the guilt

Not all feminists & not all lesbians

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NeoNotes — On Liberty

the ORIGINAL NeoNotes™

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New quotes - updated

Some of the comments I make on other boards are worth saving

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NeoNotes — Divine intervention

Your issue with me isn't about what I say. It's that I don't recognize Christianity as the "obviously superior" choice. It's that I won't give Christianity the hand up you think it deserves. It's that I don't think Christianity is the "universal" choice.

Am I attacking you? No. Am I attacking Christianity? No. Am I suppressing Christianity? No.

If Christianity is what you believe, then it should be able to hold it's own AND MORE against any other set of ideas with no special advantage.

Which means there’s no need to explain human behavior because of Divine intervention or devilish activity.

It’s choice.
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NeoNotes — Ordinary

Most of the ordinary are already great.

Even their day to day actions produce wonders.

That orange juice in your fridge and in fridges all over the country? Absolutely wonderful and put there by everyday people doing everyday things.

That smartphone you use? We were barely reaching for it twenty-five years ago. Made possible by ordinary people wanting things just a bit better than they were yesterday.

That food bank downtown? It's only there because some folks decided to make things a little easier for their neighbors.

All great things. All wondrous things. All made possible by ordinary people.
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NeoNotes — American Legacy

We are a nation of individuals, of individual liberty and responsibilities, of individual choice and individual passion. We're the first nation like that in recorded history, it is our legacy.

Our faiths, like Christianity, are a part of that.

Please think about this. You may believe that your God makes the sun rise, but your faith doesn't control my actions. Likewise, my faith doesn't control you.

We have to find common ground outside religion. Otherwise it's a matter of whose religion is "in charge," and that way will destroy liberty.

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NeoNotes — On Progress

Progress never comes from satisfaction.

And I am not talking about progressives.

We adapt, we change, we rise to meet the challenges. Life is a journey, not a destination.

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NeoNotes — Not the pagan community

I'm not speaking for the pagan community. Much of the justification for "establishing" a Greater Pagan Community® is so that certain individuals can get the adoration and deference they believe they deserve.

I believe in ecology but I'm against environmentalism.

I believe individual freedom and personal responsibility works ever so much better than collectivism.

I think that what Christians call the Golden Rule is one of the most important roots of civilization. But I prefer another version, "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

Now is that enough of a test, or do I have to give the Super Secret Handshake™ too?

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NeoNotes — On Rape Culture

I'm not familiar with the work, but we've seen these discussions far too often. Take the allegation that the United States is a "rape culture." Or the notion that anyone who says "all lives matter" instead of "black lives matter" is a racist.

In this specific case, look at the mindsets involved. One wants validation and their demands enshrined in law and regulation. The other wants a better world for them and theirs. Yet both are treated as if the RadFem ideology is dominant.

There are women who consider themselves feminists that think wife and mother is a valid choice and don't want anything to do with the RadFems. But these are not the ladies doing it for attention. They won't be published. They won't be picketing. They won't be giving soundbites for the news or YouTube. That's not how they believe lasting change happens.

Words matter. Actions matter more. Intentions don't.

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NeoNotes — On Christian theocracy

Anytime someone starts talking about a Christian theocracy, I ask "Which one?"

Besides the obvious differences between Catholics and Protestants, there are differences between the sects. There's no way a Baptist is going to take religious marching orders from a Mormon. The Methodists won't accept directions from the Christian Scientists.

This predates the country. Back in the colonial days, no one wanted a church in one colony dictating religious practices in another. This is partially why there was no national church defined in the Constitution and why the only mention of any god in that document was the date.

The best way to make sure that you're allowed to practice your religion in peace is to make sure EVERYONE has that same right.

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NeoNotes — Sex Speculation

There I admit we get into some speculation. We can't isolate the culture from the genetics. Not to mention that Really Big Assumption that you are either straight OR gay forever and ever, amen.

We can't say how much a person's sexual orientation depends on their conditioning, religious beliefs, cultural standards, rebellion, stress, pain, or pleasure. These factors can't be eliminated.

Basically all we have to work with is observations and we don't know how much is because of the biology and how much is because of the mind. That means in turn that any discussion of sex is going to bog down really quickly in ideas that can't be quantified.

Thank the gods the same can't be said for the act!

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NeoNotes — Trends

Perhaps we could just say stuff happens and individuals need to be held responsible.

The trends argument is the same justification that the RadFems use against males in general. You can pick and choose bad examples and ignore the good examples. That way, you never need to talk about individuals, it's about trends and statistics and who is the greater "danger to the community."

Why is it better when conservatives use that justification against whatever Label X is this week?

Until and unless you can show that all of Label X engages in Action Y AND no one who is Not Label X engages in Action Y, the argument falls down. Which means maybe, just maybe we should look at something other than the label.

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NeoNotes — Dangerous beast

Perhaps the biggest difference between libertarians and conservatives/progressives is that conservatives and progressives view government as a Way To Get Things Done.

Libertarians see government as an extremely dangerous beast that if kept at all, must be severely hobbled and and three-quarters starved.

For the safety of the community.

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NeoNotes — No real difference

Actually there is very little difference between the "leaders" of either party. They don't object to stuff being done, they object to the other "guy" doing it and getting the cblurbit.

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Tain't Mine

This is from an email exchange I had recently.

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Let them be forgotten

Let them be remembeblurb as cowards who only dablurb attack unarmed victims.

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NeoNotes — Impress Me

You want to impress me, come up with something more than "the Bible told me so.” Don't make threats about judgement and eternal flame. Don't tell me about the changes it's made in your life. Don’t tell me how it’s “saved you.” Don’t tell me how you have the hotline to the “Almighty." 

And don’t tell me “it’s God’s judgement” when you’re the one spouting the words.

Tell me about the changes your faith makes in the world around you. Tell me what you do that makes the world better than when you got here.  Tell me how your faith manifests through you. 

Tell me about how you pass it on.

If that "Living Word" exists, it has to be in the hearts and souls of those people who have really embraced it. It's not in a dusty book. The verses don't matter except to show you the way. Tell me what lives behind those printed words. Tell me how you turned your sacrifice into a blessing.

Tell me about love. Tell me about the love you showed today.

Your actions show that. 

Your next choice starts now.
     from the private journal of NeoWayland

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NeoNotes — Tyranny of the absolute

If the choice is between the absolute on the left side or the absolute on the right, I am going to pick freedom despite both.

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NeoNotes — I wish more people were.

I'm for live and let live.

I wish more people were.

You should live your life as you choose. Just don't expect me to celebrate it because it is your life after all. And don't go after your neighbor because of the lawn he planted or the socks he wears or where he spends his Tuesday nights.
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NeoNotes — Answers & Questions

I’ve long since concluded that no one has all the answers or even most of the questions.
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NeoNotes - Choose your right

I believe that economics and morality should be based in free choice.

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